Back to the Future Trading Avis 150

I wish I can give zero stars.

I have requested a demo through Instagram.
Mr Phillip connected with zoom call. He explained about the Tacheon Kronos Trading view indicator. His explanation of trades was in his view. He said he is an aggressive trader. At the end of the demo he explained about pricing options. After the demo I checked if I can get two days access so that I can feel comfortable to buy. He said he will check with his boss. After the demo he texted me from 979-398-XXXX number and I told him to check with the boss about trial. Next minute I got a text from the same number stating that "Hey this is the boss LOL, I own the place. I am the boss this is Michael I own the company, we are in business for 16 years.

He started humiliating me for asking a trial for two days. He even used the abusing words like you don't have money, you run for free stuff etc.,

Owner of the company with 16 years in the business behaving like this is surprising.

I am contacting my attorney and passing all his abusive messages. It is just for asking if there is any two day trail to check and see if it works in live market with my trading style.

Stay away from this company. Even before the purchase if they behave like this, not sure what is the fate after becoming customer of this company.

Edit 5/8 for the response:
Did you read my entire message. I was planning to buy and got the demo. I said with demo I may not get full picture, need two days access as it is tradingview script.
That is when the abuse started. First correct that one. If you want I can share the message screenshots.
Reply sent to Trustpilot.

In the text he said "99.9% people (like you) are tire kickers who are underfunded and moving from system to system unsuccessfully".
Instead of sending ton of abusive messages one word like "Our policy does not allow giving two day access" would have been sufficient.

Same attitude here. One star was for the customer support responses.
If you are small company, you better be polite with the customers. You may have thousands of customers, but in a business each new customer is an addition.
Comparing Milk with Pinescript access (Tradingview already gives that option) is a funny comparison.
You can see his response and imagine his responses in the text.
No one can copy the code as trading view allows closed script to use on the charts. Not sure what he is trying to prove here.

I will leave it here. His system may be great, but customer support is really poor. He will not take any inputs. Still one start for the customer support.

Edit 5/9 responding to the updates :
Audio file location: jumpshare. com/s/ gzLcmpp8w9B5QELzylB1
In the call when I said "I am more interested in buying full lifetime if I like it once I do hands on for 1/2 days" He said "I get it I am not the boss", that is when I said "please check with your boss although I am not expecting positive response". I told, even without this I will read the reviews and play some videos to decide.

Because of this conversation, when Phillip contacted me via text I have asked him "did you check with your boss". Not sure what is wrong in checking.

Bashing started after that.
Fun part is Owner responding on Phillips phone.

They claim in the response, "No free trail" is mentioned all over the website. I failed to find it, may be I am looking at the wrong location.

Company feels it is a RED FLAG if you are a software developer/sales person. So, don't tell them what you do if you are a software guy.

Had really good session with Ron on learning how to use these tools and have passed three prop firm challenges in a day I recommend trying it

I've been a member since March 2025.

I am a newbie trader and have been touched by the generosity, skill and compassion of the whole team.

David and Rachel and always available and helpful, the Discord community is supportive, and as for Michael.....I think he might actually be a wizard!

If you want to join a solid and skilled team where you have a great chance of success then I wholeheartedly recommend you take the leap.

I look forward to seeing you in the Discord community

JJ

Just finished week #1 using BTTF TACHEON KRONOS. My first week 3/30/2025 to 04/04/2025 my p/l was a $3324 profit. 71% positive win rate.

I normally do not leave reviews, but my experience with BTTFT has been exceptional. And I feel this would be helpful to others sitting on the fence, like I was. From the software to the weekly classes , everything is first class. I am not a Newbie to the markets, and this has finally given me a defined edge I was looking for and needed, with simple strategies from this amazing software. Big heartfelt thank you to Drew, Michael and Rachel for all your help and guidance.

So I first purchased the Tradingview option and a day later I upgraded to the Ninja version. I have been having excellent results waiting for double confirmation in price and time. When I take what would be a valid signal at a predetermined time, the trades work immediately. You can scale out if multiple, take it all, that is up to your trading rules. If there is a discrepancy, I don't trade. Trade less, make more!

The software is absolutely amazing. I was able to pass my Apex evaluation in three days after being in the advanced trading room for one week. I’m so grateful to start my trading journey with Back To The Future Trading.!! The software is better and better as you learn about the abundant capabilities to control how you see the markets. The software second to none. I truly believe it’s the best in industry.

Seeing more reliability after good 1 on 1 training session. Ive owned software for maybe 6 months don't use regularly but when I do I just don't see a high consistency rate (after good 1 on on seeing more accuracy on es). 5Non the less they do weekly webinars quite informative they also have very active Skype rooms--most active of any trading company! Owner Great guy I just cant seem to make money steadily with this software. Experience dated today

TimeWarp works ! I have been using for 4 months and have a 93% win rate this month on an average of 10 trades per day. 115 trades this month with 6 losses. I use other charts and indicators for confirmation but do not enter a trade until I see what TimeWarp is telling me. This is not a guarantee of you winning but if you use it correctly it should help. Its been a great help in my passing two Prop evaluations.

Over the years, I've purchased more trading programs, signals, indicators, and algos than I care to recall. BackToTheFutureTrading by far has the most unique indicators in the industry. Traditional indicators lag behind price, not so with BTTFT indicators. Don't believe me? Just watch one of Michael's webinars. Michael is brilliant and hilarious in a super-goofy kind of way. Ron is also way too intelligent for his own good and truly a renaissance man. Rachel's the glue that holds it all together and has provided the best customer service I've experienced ~ whatever they're paying her, it's not enough! Check out one of Michael's webinars... and be amazed.

The phrase "The journey is the destination", resonates best in BTTF, reflecting realism, professionalism, and great human quality. The trading system, inspired by WD Gann, is a window into Michael's mind, who applies his chain of reasoning when interpreting the market. Warp is the beginning of a wonderful journey. Could it be a system that doesn’t fully match your personality? Maybe not, maybe yes. The tree should never block your view of the forest. These people are serious and know what they are doing. Their cosmology of the market is useful in many areas, and it is clear that they don’t want to deal with people who waste their time. This is not a game. If you seek as many resources as you need and want to become a better version of yourself, you are in the right place. It’s also worth highlighting the presence of a 'guardian angel,' always vigilant and attentive to every detail, and that is Rachel. She is an immense open door, someone with a big heart who makes time to take care of everything, keeping things well-oiled and functioning. She is a vital part and indispensable member of BTTF.There is no 'holy grail' here; there are injections of reality. Here, you will understand that those who do not master their emotions will perish by them. If you are determined to embark on a journey, commit to yourself, and break free from the ridiculous fantasies of this business, you will feel at home. Just like in life, the best trade is the next one.

I have been using BTTF Tools sense the FLUX Days, and have always been impressed with the Tools as well as Michaël and Ron's understanding of the Markets, and ToolSets they have builded and offer to customers. Now I'm on the newest Tool... TachEon TimeWarpAurora. I have been consistent in all aspects of trading. If I have "Loss" money is because I gotten Greed, or made a stupid mistake. Stop setting on the side-line, and come on in the "Water Is Fine" As they and I always state... "Timing Is Everything" My time with BTTF has been since 2012. The Training on yesterday 09/06/2024, was great, I learn things I was not aware of.

I have been a customer for a little over a year now, and I am glad I found this company. If you follow the rules and use proper risk management, you will improve your trading. Michael and his team try to answer any questions you may have about the program, and I really appreciate it. Currently, I am a WARP and PVT customer, but I do plan to try other plug-ins that they offer because they all seem to work great; you just need to dedicate time to learn all of the different options that are available and then stick with the one that suits you best. The Skype groups are another option that they offer, so you can connect with other traders. 

After years learning all I could about technical analysis - price action, support/resistance, supply/demand, order flow and many more - I came across the Back to the Future Trading website and signed up for an informative video series that explained and demonstrated their unique approach based on the ideas of WD Gann of identifying times (well in advance) when different instruments would make a move and in what likely direction. This seemed too good to be true but I was definitely intrigued. A wonderful person (Drew) followed up with me, spent time showing me the software in action and answering my many questions patiently. I purchased TimeWarp first about 6 weeks ago and by gosh, what a change in my trading! I'm winning more consistently and trading with more calm too. There's a discipline that comes more easily to me when I can see on the chart that something is expected to happen on e.g the NQ 5 minutes from now - I can simply wait for that time now and more often than not, I take a good trade. Just about 2 weeks ago, I added the Optimus tool suite that includes Omnia, Aurora and PVT in addition to powerful automation. I still have much to learn on these, but they add capabilities far beyond even the magic of TimeWARP and I've qualified several new prop evaluation accounts as a result. My trading future feels brighter than ever and I have Back to the Future Trading to thank for it.

The tools are terrific and will pay for themselves in very short order. I also want to note that the team who develops these trading approaches are, in my experience, genuinely nice people who truly want to help everyone to succeed. I feel blessed to have found my way into this community.

Sometimes things happen when they’re supposed to. Or should I say, everything happens when it’s suppose to!?! 🤔
If you want to skip the novel, jump to “IN SHORT” below.

I accidentally ran across the owner of BTTFT, Michael, online while discussing futures trading challenges. I didn’t even know he had a product to sell, he was just helping me with some trading pointers. And that’s been the tone of the entire experience with the whole company. They’re very helpful and accommodating.
Back To The Future Trading (BTTFT) offers indicators, and trading philosophy education, from a time/price approach, which was originally discovered and spearheaded by WD Gann over 100 years ago. They use various methods and tools which they have developed for this, with one called Warp as a sort of bread and butter indicator. Warp wasn’t cheap and I had to think about it for several days before I could convince myself to bite off that much expense for an indicator. I’ve tried lots of different indicators and trading approaches in the past and after being burned and shanked so many times I didn’t want yet another dead end. There was no high pressure sales BS, just a basic awareness of the development of the systems and the promise to help and be supportive. I appreciated that!
I have only been trading Warp for a few weeks but I can tell you that purchasing it, and starting this journey with BTTFT, has been the most significant change and impact to my trading since beginning this journey over 15 years ago. I had some knowledge of Gann and Dewey before I ran across BTTFT, so I already respected the basis of the method, but I never expected that anyone could develop a relevant tool utilizing it, particularly at intraday levels and particularly with something as helter-skelter as futures trading. Well, they did! It’s not magic and it’s not perfect…. nothing is. But it is nothing short of incredible.
Warp does something that seems impossible at first glance. It projects turning points in price, at specific TIMES, days in advance, and that defined time doesn’t change once it’s calculated. If you’ve used indicators which “repaint” after the fact 🤨, you’ll appreciate this. Warp is different; it’s TIME based analysis based on data.

I had studied technical analysis for over 15 years and knew all the basics for analysis and indicators (all the lagging and promise of leading). But my trading has never been consistently profitable and it had begun to seem like a game rigged against me. And it is. I too often entered at exactly the wrong time and capitulated holding a position right before a recovery. How many times have I sold and then moments later the price recover and end up running!!?? Demoralizing.
The piece I was missing, of course, was time. I understood price levels, support and resistance etc… but time is as critical, or actually more critical, parameter of the equation. Once I began to get comfortable with Warp and trust it, I was able to leverage it for analysis of my trades which prevented me from taking so many bad trades at the wrong time! And it gives me superb guidance for when to exit. The more I use it, the more it becomes an indispensable tool for my trading.
How well does it work?? I’m an American living in Sydney, Australia at the moment, so trading the US markets can be a grueling endeavor since the high volume period of time of the NY session is the early morning hours here in Oz. On the higher time frames, the high probability turning points calculated by Warp may be separated by an hour or more. So, to put Warp to the test, I set my alarm clock for one of the timing dots in the future and went to sleep. When the alarm went off, I reviewed the chart, confirmed the setup and placed my trade….which hit my profit target within minutes. Twice! Let that sink in. Just incredible.

I’m excited about continuing to use Warp to build my trading business (I call it a business because this is no hobby to me…I’m here to make this happen and I’m serious about it). I had to view the purchase of Warp as an investment in my trading business….like a piece of machinery needed for the job. And that view has been spot on. The correct price is one thing, but the correct time is its twin sister. Gann viewed price and time (time factor as he called it) as inseparable. And if you’re trading only with price, then you’re trying to run a race against banks and hungry sharks when only one leg. You need both legs, time and price, to be in the game. Not only will you be in the game, you’ll find yourself a step ahead. I know because that’s what’s happened to me. It’s way less stressful, and actually very enjoyable, when you have an edge and know it.

IN SHORT:
Warp is worth it, it just works. It’ll change your trading for the better. BTTFT is the best and most supportive I’ve ever come across. It’s a powerful tool. No regrets!

The best trading system that I have ever come across in my whole entire trading journey I have multiple trading system before like trandline,support and resistance,fvg,order block,4hr line,R.M break, an many other more strategy during my journey an I can tell you that backtothefuture trading is the best system I have come across I am not just saying I have multiple result to show that this system works

In Michael's Advanced Training room, I gained more than just the ability to use BTTFT's magical software. I also acquired insights that only professionals who have focused on trading for many years can possess, along with the skills to quickly identify current market conditions.

Using the Back to the Future Trading software is like a Jedi Knight owning a lightsaber. The advanced training room equips Jedi with the skills to expand their abilities and skillfully use multiple lightsabers. You will witness Michael facing the market head-on and quickly applying various trading techniques in every moment. This is really cool!

I have also experienced the Pro-Training room hosted by Colin and Ron, which was highly engaging. In the Pro-Training room, while learning about price action, I gained a deeper understanding of how BTTFT’s elite software operates in synergy. I look forward to BTTFT developing unique training room programs for customers in the future.

I am grateful to every training room host for the knowledge, wisdom, trading skills, and insights they have brought to me. This is a journey of learning and growing together, and Back to the Future Trading always brings me more surprises!

Hey Michael, I just want to say a BIG thank you. You are a great teacher & OMNIA is thinking in & I can grasp it :-))

My PA-Account 25k from Apex, is growing everday since a couple of days now. haha they reached out to me to verify my trade setups LOL. So I record know my trades to show off :-))

So THANK YOU Michael & also I big Thank you for the new booklet with the trade setups.
And by the way, your blessings at the end of the Thursday webinar are just AWESOME.

I'm a young trader, my dad put me onto the software and the indicators they provide are mindblowing. I still have a lot to learn about trading and their system, but I am POSITIVE this is how I'm going to provide for myself for the rest of my life lol

Your product is not worth the money I paid. And you refused to give me a refund upon request after only 3 weeks of using it.

When I tried it, It was not reliable. And also you are an untrustworthy salesman. I remember before I signed up to your service, the price I saw advertised on your site was: $1995, and then mysteriously after I made an enquiry with you, and we had a phone conversation, and you convinced me that your software was the best thing ever, and worth every penny, and that you would give me a $1000 discount, if I signed up this week, as you did not want me to continue to get the market direction wrong, and "that you liked me". And then mysteriously that day, the advertised price on your website jumped from $1995 to $2495. I should have pulled out of the deal at that stage when I noticed that, but, my bad! I continued to put my card details in. So you did give a discount of $1000 kind of!  But really it was only worth a $500 discount! wasn't it Michael Lydick?

You ripped off a fellow Brother in Christ. Shame on you!

And now I see you have inflated your price for the TACHEON TIME WARP software to a staggering $2995. As if it wasn't expensive enough! What!! you don't make enough money from your Trading to give the software away for free, or just a nominal fee? No? No surprise there. It looks like you have to keep inflating the price of your software, because you don't make money from trading.  

Michael is a great salesman, and builds rapport with people quickly, But his software does not deliver.

There are many times that his indicator predicts a market change of direction, and it does NOT happen,  and sometimes it does happen, so there is no magic prediction in his software, it appears to be just chance. There are many times on his software that the 5 minute candle, or 30 candle will predict a change of price direction at a certain time, but at the exact same time, a 10 minute candle or a 15 minute candle will predict a change in direction opposite to the other signal.

When you purchase, you will be brought through a series of education videos to explain how the software can be used. But then you notice during the training there are lots of exceptions to his rules, and his software does not appear very reliable.

At the time of signing up in (Sept 2023), Michael told me he was in the process of designing his tool to use on Tradingview, But a quick look on Tradingview yesterday, (July, 31, 2024) It still has not showed up!
(There is some indicator called Back To The Future. But I can see it is not Michael's Software.) So his software is only available on NinjaTrader.

All those empty promises Michael! You are a charleton and a rip off merchant, I'd advise anyone reading this to stay clear of Michael's Back To the Future Trading software. He categorically will not give refunds when the user finds out it is worthless. When I asked him for a refund, he said I was not using the software properly, and if I wanted to pay him an additional $100 he could organise special training for me.

Just to assist people who are considering buying this scam software from "Back To The Future Trading"  by Michael Lydick, to help them find this review, I am going to include the various names that someone might use to do some research about this company:

[] BackToTheFutureTrading.com  
[] Back To The Future
[] BTTFT  
[] Tacheon Warp
[] Time Warp
[] Michael Lydick
[] Time Analysis Trading Prediction software